Faith, Pride, and Chat this Friday
Don’t forget Faith, Pride, and Chat, our informal social evening, is taking place on Friday, 28 December at 7 p.m in St George’s Church on High Street. There may even be a Christmas-themed quiz. More detail….
World AIDS Day 2012
English: The Red ribbon is a symbol for solidarity with HIV-positive people and those living with AIDS. Français : Le Ruban rouge, symbole de la solidarité avec les personnes séro-positives. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Yesterday we had our monthly Faith, Pride, and Chat meeting at St George’s in Belfast, which was followed immediately by a service for World AIDS Day.
Although I am now very close indeed to someone living with HIV, my first contact with HIV came in the early 2000s, when I first became acquainted with the work of John Boswell, Michel Foucault, and John J. Winkler. Those scholars were invaluable to me in my studies of the New Testament texts on same-sex relationships. Even today I find myself reaching for Boswell’s Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality to check something, and I almost always seem to refer to Chapter 1 of Winkler’s The Constraints of Desire when writing about ‘nature’ in Romans 1.
Foucault died in 1984, Winkler in 1990, and Boswell in 1994. Foucault was 57, Winkler 46, and Boswell 47. When I reach for the books they published, I can’t help but wonder about the other books they might have written had they lived longer, especially Foucault’s planned fourth volume of The History of Sexuality which would have covered Christianity. In October of this year I found myself wondering what Boswell would have thought of my own understanding of arsenokoites and malakos.
Gay Christians owe a huge debt of gratitude to those three men. Their scholarship has enabled us to claim our rightful places in the Christian churches. They all died of AIDS-related illnesses. I thought of them in my prayers during the World AIDS Day service, and when I lit a candle I lit it for them. HIV affects everyone, not just gay people, but gay Christians should never forget what HIV has taken from us.
But nor should we forget what modern medical science has given us. HIV is no longer a death sentence. With today’s antiretroviral drugs it can be fought and held at bay. There are many people who are living with HIV today, including my wonderful husband Michael. In your prayers, remember all who have gone before, but also remember all who are still here and will still be here. Remember and be thankful for all those who have fought and will continue to fight HIV, through their work or through their lives.
Faith, Pride, and Chat, and World AIDS Day service this Friday
Don’t forget Faith, Pride, and Chat, our informal social evening, is taking place on Friday, 30 November at 7 p.m in St George’s Church on High Street. More detail….
At 8 p.m., also in St George’s, there will be a short service for World AIDS Day.
The service will begin promptly at eight o’clock in the evening. The aim is to remember those who have gone before, those living now, and those still to come who live with or are affected by HIV.
Jeff Dudgeon MBE on the 30th Anniversary of Decriminalisation of Same-Sex Relations
On Sunday 28th October, Jeff Dudgeon MBE gave the address at the service to mark 30 years since the decriminalisation of same-sex relationships in Northern Ireland. We are grateful to him for allowing us to publish the text of his address here.
Thank you for the invitation to talk about the 30th anniversary of decriminalisation this very week, a moment to celebrate freedom and emancipation. A week where the most drastic of criminal penalties were lifted from a small but numerous minority.
It is worth remembering that in law books and in parliamentary debates, homosexual behaviour used to be referred to by the Latin formula “peccatum illud horribile” – that horrible crime – “inter Christianos non nominandum” not to be named among Christians. Men in early Victorian times when convicted of sodomy were hanged, something enthusiastically applauded.
A victory was won with the vote in the House of Commons but the response from the establishment here, and in London, was, and to an important degree remains grudging and hesitant. There were to be no reparations for the past as also was the case after the slaves were freed in the US – but not in the case of Germany at Versailles.
No Northern Ireland MP voted for reform, indeed several who were or had been gay actually voted against. A staggering fact. Colossal hypocrisy. Only in Northern Ireland which also reminds me of later amazing events concerning the family Robinson.
And there was to be no inclusion of Northern Ireland in consequent reforms like the age of consent and civil partnership, without yet another wearying campaign.
I have prospered, but our opponents in the ‘Save Ulster from Sodomy’ campaign prospered mightily, becoming successive Northern Ireland First Ministers. Their campaign however failed, and it is they who are softening their now hard antagonism.
The lawyers for the UK government arguing against decriminalisation became respectively the Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland (Lord Brian Kerr) and the President of the ECHR (Sir Nicolas Bratza).
Most younger people just can’t believe such criminalisation ever existed. Of course it was frightening, perhaps more in its potential than in its enforcement. But it could be, and was unexpectedly enforced in Belfast in 1976, when the authorities became agitated at what they took to be a conspiracy to change the law and of a new generation’s willingness to live openly outside it. Many were arrested.
Obviously we were able to look back thirty years on worse times – the German experience when many hundreds of gays were rounded up and the majority worked to death in concentration camps. But that had become history, just as the era of criminalisation is now history.
And younger LGBT people are now concerned about those inequalities and restrictions which might to me seem less onerous, but definitely not to them. I refer to the adoption issue, blood donations and, most controversially for churches, gay or equal marriage.
I have to say, I believe this last one will not come easily or quickly to England with the House of Lords likely to reject it, nor will it come to Northern Ireland via the Assembly. The courts will be the motor for change, as before.
And I have not mentioned disputes, particular to the Church of Ireland, like ordination. The Anglican church is, and will be, the front runner on many such issues but it would a great and unnecessary pity if they lead to splits and departures. I wouldn’t have said this in 1976 and rightly shouldn’t have, but there is a middle way and while acrimony should at all costs be avoided.
I was struck this morning, listening to former President Mary McAleese, in a Sunday Sequence interview with William Crawley, regarding her new book on canon law, by her words: “In charity and love the church must send a new message to our gay brothers and sisters.”
In addressing you now, I believe this Church, for one, has sent that message, and it is appreciated.
In return, we must avoid disrespecting religion and the Christian beliefs of many who are not advancing at the same speed.
I am of the view, in relation to some aspects of UK equality law, particularly employment discrimination, and in turn the decisions of the European Court of Human Rights – whose judgment in my case in 1981 obliged the government to decriminalise homosexuality in Northern Ireland and for which I am eternally grateful – that they need reviewed and refined.
As one lawyer wrote: “There does seem to be a good argument for a different approach to cases where religious belief clashes with discrimination law…Although the protection of the holding of a belief under Article 9(1) of the European convention is absolute, the protection of manifestations of belief under Article 9(2) is interpreted so narrowly as to have almost no impact at all.
…As the UK Government recently argued [and I would say wrongly argued] before Strasbourg the reading of Article 9(2) by the European Court in previous cases has the effect that if people find their religious beliefs conflict with their jobs, they should either ‘leave their beliefs at home or get another job’.
Article 9 protects a poor form of religious freedom indeed, if it does not extend to either the workplace or the marketplace. The current approach is in danger of forcing millions of people to be hypocrites; able to act in line with their beliefs in their own homes or at the church, mosque, synagogue or temple, but having to put on a different face at work or in business. That is unacceptable and unworkable.
The writer added “But the principle of non-discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation is also hugely important, and carving out exceptions would make it meaningless. Reconciling the two is difficult, but there must be a means of doing so that ensures religious freedom is more than just the freedom to believe what you want in private, and which celebrates and protects the fact that we live in a society which tolerates all kinds of different belief systems.”
I would however move in the other direction in relation to one aspect of Northern Ireland law (with its concomitant EU exemption), and that is the exception for schools from fair employment law when employing teachers. They can discriminate on grounds of religion, and do.
EU Council Directive 2000/78 reads deceitfully “In order to maintain a balance of opportunity in employment for teachers in Northern Ireland while furthering the reconciliation of historical divisions between the major religious communities there, the provisions on religion or belief in this Directive shall not apply to the recruitment of teachers in schools in Northern Ireland.”
In conclusion, may I pay tribute to Changing Attitude Ireland (CAI) whose efforts in the Church of Ireland have been illuminating and extensive?
We must also hope and pray that two of Northern Ireland gay society’s most assiduous reformers, PA MagLochlainn of NIGRA and Rev Mervyn Kingston of CAI who are going through the trial of accelerating illness are given respite, and can return to a degree of strength to continue their work.
Jeff Dudgeon MBE
28 October 2012
Same-Sex Relationships: 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy
This is the text of the talk I gave to the Accepting Sexuality group.
Abstract
There are two passages from the New Testament that are often quoted as proof that you cannot be gay and Christian: 1 Corinthians 6.9–10 and 1 Timothy 1.9–10. The New International Version of the former says “men who have sex with men … will [not] inherit the kingdom of God.” If the understanding of these passages was as simple as a superficial reading suggests, then the gay Christian movement would never have started. However, their message is more equivocal, and there are many conflicting translations.
It can be shown that the key words in these passages, malakos and arsenokoites, are not about sex between men, and the latter can even be connected to sex between a husband and wife.
By considering the wider Christian context of these passages, in particular what Christ said about inheriting…
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Faith, Pride, and Chat this Friday
Don’t forget Faith, Pride, and Chat, our informal social evening, is taking place on Friday, 26 October at 7 p.m in St George’s Church on High Street. More detail….
30 Years Since Decriminalisation
On Sunday 28th October 2012 at 3 p.m. in St Georges Church, High Street, Belfast, there will be a service to mark 30 years since the decriminalisation of same-sex relationships in Northern Ireland. The speaker is Jeff Dudgeon MBE.
Jeff Dudgeon is best known for his role in the case of Dudgeon vs United Kingdom, where he challenged the criminalisation of sexual relations between men at the European Court of Human Rights. When it concluded in 1982, the case forced Northern Ireland to bring its laws into line with the rest of the UK.
This event is organised by Changing Attitude Ireland.
“Presbyterian, Gay and Scottish” – Changing Attitude Ireland Lecture
Changing Attitude Ireland is having a public lecture at 3:45 p.m. on Saturday 27th October 2012 in Central Hall, First (Non-Subscribing) Presbyterian Church, Rosemary St, Belfast. The speaker is Rev. Blair Robertson from Affirmation Scotland.
The Revd Blair Robertson is a clergyman in the Church of Scotland. Educated at Edinburgh and Glasgow Universities and Princeton Theological Seminary, he is Head of Chaplaincy and Spiritual Care for NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde. He will reflect on the current debate on sexuality in his Church, and look ahead, with hope, to a more inclusive church. Speaking from his personal experience as a gay Christian he will give perspectives on how the Bible and theology is used in this often difficult debate in the Christian churches in Britain and Ireland.
“Written in the past, calling to the present”

Accepting Sexuality, an informal group of Methodists, is holding a series of Bible studies in October.
Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people are used to hearing Biblical passages quoted in judgement or exclusion of their identity. This series looks at an interpretation in the context in which the passages were written which brings a positive, affirming and inclusive message to LGBT people, their families and friends, in relation to who God is and to our understanding of sexuality.
The series aims to enable an open, honest and Biblical understanding of these sometimes difficult passages.
The studies take place at 8pm in the Belfast South Methodist Church, Lisburn Road, Belfast.
| Date | Subject and speaker | |
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| 4 October | Jayme Reaves Introduction to Scriptural Interpretation |
Paula Rita Tabakin The Jewish Approach to Difficult Scriptures |
| 11 October | Jayme Reaves The Creation Narrative |
Stephen Adair Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis and Jude) |
| 18 October | Harriet Long Leviticus |
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| 25 October | David Cooper Romans |
Andrew McFarland Campbell 1 Corinthians & 1 Timothy |
Faith, Pride, and Chat this Friday
Don’t forget Faith, Pride, and Chat, our informal social evening, is taking place on Friday, 28 September at 7:15 p.m in Costa Coffee, Victoria Square. Note this is a last-minute change of venue. I’ll be wearing a pink F&P hoodie so you can find me. More detail….
